Meta:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive 2

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21 December 2015 - 26 June 2019

Index Wiki

Can it have a link on the main page or sidebar so new users know they can go to it and create a page about their wiki or find information about existing wikis? D4rkst4r (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Please check Stewards' noticeboard as Administrator's noticeboard is not the appropriate page for other wikis than meta. Reception123 (talk)(contribs) 03:56, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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 Not done As there are not enough votes to determine if the rights should be removed or not. This may be requested at a later point. Reception123 (talk)(contribs) 19:10, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

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Removal or Switiching of Administrator rights for User:QuimGil

Hi everyone. I have noticed that User:QuimGil is an administrator but has no edits globally or on meta. I think that it's not a good idea to have inactive administrators on Meta. Therefore, I propose that either his rights are removed or they are switched to his other account used more often, Icaria36. Reception123 (talk)(contribs) 05:40, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Comments

 Support The user is Inactive and shouldn't stay with Administrator permissions. SleepyMode 18:09, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

 Comment: Neither really appears active on Meta. @QuimGil and Icaria36: to see if either replies. (This is also assuming the two are the same user. I haven't seen this on wiki, don't know them well, and will not be performing a check). -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 21:55, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

 Support (I didn't even support it myself) As I don't think we should have inactive sysops on meta. Reception123 (talk)(contribs) 19:19, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

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Done by NDKilla per below

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Rollback permissions on the Meta

Hello there,

I simply Request Rollback permissions permissions on the wiki, as It is a quite basic Permission that might be required in some specific situations and That is only one Administrator active, It would be likely to help him in such a basic thing, And let him do the Real job he needs to do. SleepyMode 11:04, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Votes

•  Comment: Not against the user having permissions, in fact I support the user themselves, but I'm not sure how much these rights are needed as Meta isn't very active and there's already more than 5 sysops. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 17:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
•  Comment: Per NDKilla. The user is active and helps a lot at Miraheze but there is no need for rollback as we've only had 2 vandals on Meta since the creation of Miraheze. If there will be vandalism you will probably be assigned. Reception123 (talk)(contribs) 20:05, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
•  Comment: I'm actually thinking of writing an essay on the subject matter. In my own opinion, and not representing any policy or view of Miraheze staff, I think that if something needs to be done, it should be done by anyone able to, and as many people should be able to as possible. IMHO the only reason rights shouldn't be granted is if there is a reason to believe that they will be misused, the request for rights is made in bad faith, or there is a security/privacy reason to deny the request. Examples for such requests that should be considered more in depth would include server access, stewardship, crat, and Oversight/CheckUser. Autopatrol/confirmed/etc (including rollback) can be easily removed. Rollbacks can easily be reverted, including rolling back the rollback. Well sysop can not be as easily removed, it can still be removed by any active steward or bureaucrat. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 22:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
•  Long story short, until I hear from SPF or I see these rights used abusively or in bad faith, I'm going to go ahead and assigning these rights. I'd honestly like some discussion about why they SHOULDN'T be assigned, instead of this. :) -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 22:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

I think this was the best way to solve the problem :) And I generally give autopatrolled to users who are active on Meta and don't need to be patrolled. Reception123 (talk)(contribs) 05:15, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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Translation Main page/de

Hey there, just saw the translation of the german main page is not yet complete. May I translate it? Clicking the "translation" button brought me to another page but there is obviously no link to go one step further. How to do it? Simple editing seem to be blocked --Supermohi (talk) 18:26, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

done --Supermohi (talk) 21:10, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Approval of requested Wiki

Hi guys,

I requested a Wiki two days ago. I am surprised that it is not approved yet. I saw on the request page that other Wikis which were requested later are already approved. If you need more information from me, please let me know. If you don't want to approve it, that's fine too, but please let me know. I requested the Wiki under the user name hdegen.

Regards, -Helmut

@Helmut: Hello there Helmut, Please sign using "~~~~" next time, also, It would be nice if you link me to the request?[some are missed]

Creating new meta account yields database error

I submitted the form to create a new meta account and got this error:

"A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. Function: User::idForName Error: 1205 Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (185.52.1.77)"

I was using Chrome Version 48.0.2564.103 (64-bit) on Ubuntu 14.04 64bit on Monday February 22, 21:09 CST Tried twice, same error message resulted. Then tried 3rd time, got message that my user name was already in use. I logged into Meta without a problem.

Greetings! We're aware of such issues, and will get them fixed ASAP. Sorry for the inconvenience! Samuel (talk) 00:44, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Another approval of requested wiki

Hello guys,

I've requested a wiki page two weeks ago. I've checked it out everyday. But, it looks still 'in review' status.
Could you please review it and approve the request quickly?
The link is https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/581
Thanks.
- Sahara

 Done per the queue. --S (talk) 05:40, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Add a donation section to the Main Page

I put a request here:

• https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Miraheze

Can someone add a donations section to the Main Page?

Maybe below the

Contact us
IRC: #miraheze (recommended)
Facebook: Miraheze
Twitter: @miraheze
On-wiki: Help center

section?

Donations

for details on how to make a donation, please see the Donate page.

Wondering how your donations have been used? Look at the Finance page.

Thanks! --Robert Sterbal 412-977-3526

I will talk to the founders of Miraheze and see what they think. Reception123 (talk)(contribs) 05:32, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Duplicate Wiki Request (Alberhill Community)

Hi, I'm new and accidentally made a second request for this Wiki. Thanks. Cass

@Theoptimizers:

Hi. Both a request wiki was declined, because the custom domain are contains (space) " ". Before your make request you may read this.Thanks TriX (talk) 06:28, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I have created the wiki temporarily at alberhill.miraheze.org. Could you please send an email to csrMiraheze.org in order to progress the custom domain. Thanks, John (talk) 06:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Not Safe for Work Content Policy?

Hello, I just wanted to ask whether or not Miraheze has a policy concerning wikis that have content considered NSFW? I noticed there were wikis for subjects such as fanfiction, which although not inherently NSFW, does venture into that type of content frequently. If an archive wiki dedicated to a genre of NSFW content was requested, would it be closed immediately or would it just be marked as being home to NSFW content and allowed to exist in the Miraheze community? Thank you, 178.17.170.99 00:15, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi; content policy is a work in progress. Until that anything (as long it doesn't violate law in the United States and The Netherlands) should be fine. But - if in doubt, please ask our staff member @Vorticity:. Southparkfan (talk) 12:15, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

The only thing we're really concerned about in terms of NSFW content, at a farm-wide level, is hosting pornographic pictures/video of real humans. And that's only because running such sites is so hard to police, and may need legal things like an over-18 clickthrough that we haven't figured out technically. Individual wikis may have more stringent requirements. Metawiki has a policy of no NSFW content, because everyone needs to be able to read here. I hope that answers your question. Were you going to request "Bubblegum Pink: Raging Fires Wiki" 😝? --Vorticity (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Actually, I was thinking about creating a Yiff Comics archive. There exists an archive on Reddit (www.reddit.com/r/pureyc/) ^{Couldn't post a hyperlink.}, and although Reddit is ok for the time being, it would be a lot easier to manage and organize if the archive was located on a wiki. 188.138.9.49 05:58, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I'll be using this account from now on to avoid confusion. Pyrexcys (talk) 06:45, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Vorticity: Would a wiki of this nature be acceptable since it doesn't have to do with real humans? Pyrexcys (talk) 04:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@Pyrexcys: I wouldn't put in a request until you hear back from Vorticity (He'll probably have the final say on the content policy), but I think the answer would be yes as long as no images of real people or animals are ever uploaded to the site. I've asked several times and never really demanded a yes or no answer, and it hasn't been a problem since I haven't actually done it yet, but hopefully you get an answer soon. If he gets on IRC I'll poke him about this section. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 12:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@Pyrexcys: I totally wasn't going to do this or anything. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 15:27, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Pyrexcys: I'm pretty close to approving this, but let me pivot to a different question: How much image data would be involved with storing this wiki? We're not really set up to host a large amount of data right now, but if it's measured in megabytes we'll probably be OK. I think an over 18 "Adult Content" warning would be appropriate, but I would essentially have to write a Mediawiki extension to do that. And ED doesn't care about warnings, so why should we? (Also hosting this wiki could earn Miraheze an ED page, lol.) --Vorticity (talk) 23:56, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@Vorticity: You'll have to inform me on the initialism ED and what an "ED page" is. In terms of storage requirements, the comics are only linked to, the actual images are stored on the original author's website. If the original author's website is inaccessible the comic might be stored on a third-party server. Each article is formatted similar to the novel articles that currently exist on Wikipedia (reference). The only part of the wiki that would take up any significant space is comic book covers, but even those could be hosted from the original comic location or a third-party site. Concerning the warnings of "Adult Content," there wouldn't be any graphic images from a comic in any particular article (exception being too graphic covers that would either have to be censored or provided through a link), but the text of the article would still likely be considered adult content. Pyrexcys (talk) 06:15, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Vorticity: I decided to submit the wiki request so I can get working on the wiki as soon as possible if it gets approved. Does anyone know of a place where I can preview articles before the wiki exists? I know that I can use the preview button on some random wiki but I'd rather not risk submitting a unrelated page to another wiki (low probability I know, but I'm paranoid). Pyrexcys (talk) 02:34, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Pyrexcys:  Approved. Just use your own wiki to edit 😀. Let us know if you need any features installed on your wiki. Also ED = Encyclopedia Dramatica, which is a wiki filled with horrible people and lulz. --Vorticity (talk) 21:13, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

(reset indent) @Vorticity: Wanted you to see the disclaimer here and just get your thoughts on it. Should hopefully still be acceptable. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 19:25, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Don't see a problem there. It's not my job to verify the accuracy of statements on wikis, just to make sure that anything they say doesn't get us in legal trouble. Not seeing any long wavelength-colored flags here, either for the farm policy or the law. LGTM. --Vorticity (talk) 07:37, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Working on Meta

How does one begin work/tasks on the Meta wiki (changing pages, creating new pages, etc.)? Tankobot (talk) 07:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Tankobot: Replying here instead of on various talk pages. Your edits to Helpful People were blocked by the Abuse Filter. Once your account gains 'autoconfirmed' status (10 edits + 4 days account age, IIRC), then you will be able to edit pages without tripping any of the filters (on this wiki). I kind of like the Helpful People page, but having duplicate lists (one of which is now out-dated because I updated the HP one) is a bad idea. I'm thinking about removing the one on IRC and doing something like below.

   For a list of staff and volunteers, please see Helpful People.

Anyways, sorry about that :) thank you for contributing. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 15:22, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Requests and Custom Domains

There's no place for this really so dropping a note here (in addition to what I said on IRC). In future, please create wikis which ask for a custom domain under a subdomain which some-what distinguishes the domain name (e.g. xx.yy.org would be xxyywiki, wiki.xxy.org would be wikixxywiki etc.) instead of leaving requests marked as 'inreview'. If a user really wants a custom domain for the wiki, they'd follow it up, there's no reason to prevent creation because of it. Also it would have to be done anyway so just makes work easier later on. Thanks, John (talk) 16:20, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

For the record, Custom domains says In the meantime a wiki creator will create the wiki, and associate a .miraheze.org it., so this is supposed to be done, there just shouldn't be a delay to it. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 00:54, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Template broken

You can see the template TriX (talk) 09:15, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@TriX: Scributno is not enabled on Meta Wiki and Module:Message box wasn't imported. Is there a need for this or are you adding random templates from Wikipedia? -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 11:10, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi NDKilla Yes it is needed a scributno so I can imported from wp and also enabling a sintax highlight. Thanks :) TriX (talk) 12:59, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@TriX: Okay I see you want to import this stuff but why do you need it or syntax highlight? There shouldn't really be any code on this wiki and I think the templates we have are good. If you have a specific template you need, let me know and we may enable Scribunto or create a work around, but I don't think Meta should be cluttered with multi-purpose templates we never use. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 13:17, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

I think template in meta should be complete. I just wanted to complete the template on meta. However, if not used, then I do not to created. :) TriX (talk) 13:28, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

In my personal opinion things on Meta should be created as needed, to not create extra work. If you don't currently have a reason to enable it, then I'm going to hold off on enabling it. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 13:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Need permissions to add users

Hi,

I need to be able to add users, especially after I get the wiki made private (previous request today).

Thanks,

Rulmer

@Rulmer: You already can add users. (On your wiki) please see the pages Special:CreateAccount and Special:UserRights which (after your wiki is made private) would be used to add users to the 'member' group. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 12:36, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

PS, since this is about your wiki, this would usually go on SN not Administrators' noticeboard. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 12:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Lack of general disclaimer

I noticed that the Meta wiki has a lack of a general disclaimer, I apologise if this is the wrong place for this but I imagine that the creation of such policy would be in the hand of administrators only. My wiki is lacking a general disclaimer and I was going to use what I thought Miraheze would have however it does not have one, it might be useful for a lot more wiki owners if such a one was created. Apologies for any inconvenience. LulzKiller (talk) 15:48, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Is this a valid edit?

Is this a valid edit to somebody's User page other than one's own?

https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:RedditNavy&curid=5370&diff=20815&oldid=20636

--Robkelk (talk) 13:18, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

@Robkelk: No, it is not a valid edit. I have told Amanda on IRC that doing that is unacceptable and it should not repeated. 14:11, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Should the page have been deleted, then? --Robkelk (talk) 15:20, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

The page was not deleted because of Amanda's request, it was deleted because 1) the user blanked the page which indicates that they want deletion 2) the content before wasn't really userpage content and it should be wiki content. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 15:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

So then it was a valid action and request then? Nothing stipulates certain people have to request deletion neither only certain accounts can edit user pages. Validity is in the action not the person to me. John (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Was it the user who blanked the page? Since the page has been deleted, I cannot double-check, but I thought that the Recent Changes list indicated that it was Amanda who blanked the change. Could an admin verify this, please? --Robkelk (talk) 16:49, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

The page was blanked by the user. -- Void ^Whispers 17:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Meta policy

As there are a lot of issues with recent actions on Meta made either by Stewards, by non-stewards or by Meta administrators I think that a policy is required to ensure that the rules on Meta are clear. I have created User:Reception123/Meta policy (draft) and anyone is invited to edit it and/or comment on it. After the version is seen by users a vote would be required to decide if this should be the Meta policy, but for now I think we should just leave it to comments.

Comments

There's some sloppy wording in there that will be likely twisted to malefactors' benefit if it's left as-is. I've left specific comments in the document. --Robkelk (talk) 16:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

•  Comment: The sentence regarding removing comments at RFC should be removed from the draft, or excluded in a final policy. This contradicts the previous sentence about disallowing incivility and insults. Users should have the right to remove derogatory comments from RFC or other discussions. Amanda (talk) 17:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

That was added back as it was removed without the consent of the person that wrote it, removal can be discussed here or on the specific talkpage. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 17:59, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

As I already said on the talkpage, removing someone else's comments from an RfC is the ultimate incivility. I'm repeating this here for emphasis. --Robkelk (talk) 01:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

•  Comment: Bumping this as there is no recent activity. Please feel free to contribute to the policy! Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 13:53, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Please share your thoughts on my draft NPA policy for Miraheze. Amanda (talk) 20:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

 Comment: Far too over-reaching - applying that to "all Miraheze" would mean that some stranger could remove text from a wiki other than Meta if that stranger found the text offensive, or if it was determined that the earlier wiki editor referred to himself with the wrong pronoun, no matter what that wiki's individual Terms of Use and that wiki's Content Policy might be. Also, it doesn't guarantee that disagreements of opinion will not qualify as personal attacks simply because they are disagreements of opinion. --Robkelk (talk) 01:09, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Can't login

Just bringing to your attention not being able to login on Meta (and, therefore, no logged in access to own website). Probably just a temporary and/or minor issue but this is the message I get after I have entered my login credentials:

(Cannot access the database: Cannot access the database: Unknown database 'zgradetenniswiki' (81.4.127.157)) – 86.160.46.10 22:46, 19 April 2017 (UTC) (Borderman)

 Resolved this was caused by miscommunication in that I was told the database was okay to drop so I presumed it had been deleted correctly several months ago. John (talk) 22:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks @John: Working again. Borderman  ^{talk | contribs | email} 23:15, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Merge Histories of Images

Hi, I wanted to upload an improved version of File:Miraheze admin.png, however for a strange reason I did not want to save the file and I had to upload a new one. I request that the histories of the 2 files be merged to preserve the authorship of the same ones. Thanks. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 07:50, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

The original file has been updated, I think you just had to wait. I deleted the newer one as it was identical. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 07:58, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

CheckUser group

Would it be possible to chang the check user group display name to read checkuser? This is the form that is used on Wikimedia globally and it looks better IMHO to not have the space. This would require:

• Changing MediaWiki:group-checkuser to "CheckUsers" or "Checkusers"
• Changing MediaWiki:group-checkuser-member to "checkuser"
• Changing MediaWiki:grouppage-checkuser to "CheckUser" or "Checkuser"

-- Amanda (talk) 22:13, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

 No-admin comment This should be done in MirahezeMagic, I have already requested the change in GitHub. What of the page I think should be discussed before being renamed. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 23:00, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

 No-admin comment I forgot that the extensions are hosted on Wikimedia, so the request was denied. A request will have to be made in translatewiki.net since only the administrators of that site can edit the original versions in English of the MediaWiki system messages. I'll open a thread on the support page to do the modification, but that can take weeks because almost nobody cares about that page there. For now I think you can close this since the administrators can not do anything in this case. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 05:32, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

No, you can edit the MediaWiki pages linked above to change the group name only on Miraheze Meta Wiki. -- Amanda (talk) 11:17, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

You can, but I see no valid reason to do so personally. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 15:46, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Addition of Interwikis in Special:Interwiki

Hi, I would like to know if it is possible for an administrator to add the following link in the "Interwiki prefixes" section of Special:Interwiki:

• Prefix: "test" or "testwiki" / URL: https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/$1

And add the following links in the "Interlanguage prefixes" section:

• Prefix: "es" / URL: https://es.publictestwiki.com/wiki/$1

This would allow generating the section "In other languages" in both wikis and would allow the users of the primary wiki to know that there is a Spanish version, besides it would facilitate the theme of the links between both wikis. I do not know if this is possible, but from my point of view I do not see it as controversial. I hope you consider yourself. Thanks. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 13:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

I could add testwiki, but for the Spanish PublicTestWiki I'd rather at esttest, estest or pruebawiki rather than jsut "es", if that's okay with you. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 14:22, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

It could be, but I fear that the original goal I had raised would not result. Do the same as you suggest (with "pruebawiki") to see if it works. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 14:24, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Translate available languages top or bottom

The box that shows what translated languages of a page are available is either placed on the bottom of a page (for example Miraheze or Help center) or the top (CheckUser). For consistency reasons I think we need to decide whether it goes on the top for all pages or on the bottom for all pages, or else users will be confused. Please leave your comments and opinions below. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 07:57, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Comments

I think it looks better at the bottom of the page, but that is purely based on aesthetics rather than function. However, on long pages it's not always apparent there's other languages available unless you scroll all the way down. With that in mind it might be better at the top. Depends what is more important: aesthetics over function or the other way round. Borderman  ^{talk | contribs | email} 10:50, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I think that some users aren't necessarily aware that we have several languages, so maybe having it on the top would be a better idea. Though I will point out that on the WMF Wikimedia, they have it on the bottom for their Main page, and at the top for other pages. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 18:49, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Having had a look at Wikimedia Meta's main page and several random pages afterwards I'm inclined to agree with you. Keeping the languages at the top certainly makes it obvious that some pages have more than one language. I'm not particularly keen on the language boxes that have 30 or 40+ languages in them as the box becomes quite large and somewhat of a distraction from the article. But, that's just me and I guess function over aesthetics, in this particular case, is probably more important. Borderman  ^{talk | contribs | email} 20:23, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I agree that when there's 25-30 languages+ it already becomes something that we don't want on a Main Page. I just want there to be some obvious indication that we have multiple languages, even though it will not look as nice, even a "Scroll to the bottom to change language" would be a more effective than now, in my opinion. Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 06:34, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

My two cents are that I like how it is at Wikimedia. Bottom of main page and top of all other pages. If it really hurts the ascethics that much then we can put it on the bottom of every page, but then I'd like some indication it's there. Maybe a small box in the top right corner listing subpages or a box saying scroll down for translated pages. Kind of like the position and size of {{TOC right}} -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 11:22, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

I like NDKilla's idea. We can have small box that says "This page is translated! Scroll down.", and that wouldn't ruin the aesthetics of the page. We also need to find a suitable place on the Main page (as that is my main concern for people not knowing there are multiple languages). Reception123 (talk) (contribs) 11:29, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

That would work and it catches the eye. What about having it clickable instead of scrolling down. I know it's not a major thing to scroll but on long pages it might be better to have a link to the bottom of the page. Maybe word it similar to Reception's suggestion: "This page has been translated! Click here to see all available languages." or words to that effect. Borderman  ^{talk | contribs | email} 12:56, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

No MP3s?

MP3 is not a valid file type at Special:Upload? Is this farm-wide or can I enable it on TheMirror? Spıke (talk)05:20 12-Oct-2017

Hi, while that can be done, we ask that you please direct all feature requests to phabricator. The page is for contacting local metawiki admins. MacFan4000 (talk) 11:42, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry; will do. Spıke (talk)15:15 12-Oct-2017

About Sidebar

On Sidebar, About Miraheze is linked on help page. Is there not any page which describing about Miraheze? If it is, Please, Add help and about Miraheze page link on sidebar "differently". And if not, Please, Create it to know Miraheze perfectly. I think, It will be more better.
আ হ ম সাকিব
TALK CONTRIBUTION 07:59, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

"About Miraheze" redirects to "Help center". Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Olivebuilder

User "Olivebuilder" seems to be here solely to plant advertisements and not to advance the goals of the wiki farm. Spıke (talk)04:34 13-Oct-2017

Thanks for spotting that. I have blocked the user. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:36, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Update the list of administrators of Meta

I recently tried to get some changes done on meta and I received this response:

It happens that some sysadmins are also Meta administrators (like myself), in that case they would be acting in their capacity as a Meta administrator and not a sysadmin. Reception123 (talk) (C) 15:35, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Please update this page:

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators

to make that more clear.

Can you point me to the page that describes how someone becomes a meta administrator and how you challenge their decisions?

Rsterbal (talk) 11:09, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

There's no formal policy on administrators on meta. Users can gain permissions at Meta:Requests for permissions. Challenging decisions is done the same way as everything else - discussing. Administrators have no rule of law, their comments are opinions and carry the same weight as everyone elses unless they're enforcing one of the relatively few policies that exist on Meta. John (talk) 11:22, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

In addition, I think that we should discuss having some guidelines for what pages should exist on Meta, so that we stay consistent. This should be discussed by the users. To clarify again, my comments about the page were just my opinion as a user, not as an administrator, and they were just suggestions. I make these suggestions, because as I said above I'm trying to keep pages on Meta consistent with each other, and their style. If we have different pages set up differently and named differently, it can become confusing for users to find them. Reception123 (talk) (C) 05:26, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Rewritten FAQs

I had wanted FAQ to reference the new Gazetteer of wikis (inspired by Community noticeboard#Wiki Creation Collaboration Idea) but FAQ is protected against editing. I took a copy, at User:Spike the Dog/FAQ, fleshed out some sections, eliminated duplication, and provided new material, such as:

• What a wiki is
• Overview of CSS/JS
• How MediaWiki extensions work.

Would you please evaluate these edits and, if suitable, install this version? Spıke (talk)11:36 19-Oct-2017

I've gone ahead and done a major update to FAQ, largely using your work. You could probably diff your FAQ and the current FAQ to see that I've made a couple of small edits. Mostly just replacing a little bit of odd wording, the thing about nobody knowing how to pronounce Miraheze (I also changed that to a permlink), and I replaced several instances of Stewards with sysadmin since they're different. -- Cheers, NDKilla ^{( Talk • Contribs )} 15:49, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much! It might look better to use __TOC__ so that the Intro is what the reader sees first, rather than the entire Table of Contents. And to be really nitpicky, the Main Page does nothing hopefully. You may delete the version in my userspace if you like. Spıke (talk)16:06 19-Oct-2017

I have made a few minor edits to the FAQ. I think it's great that we now have a more detailed version of the FAQ. Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Okay, but if dismissable site notices are only available globally, then you want to delete the paragraph after that one too. Also, you changed "More complicated changes" to "Other changes not listed" (for changes that require a request). But they are listed, further on down the page. My strategy was to have a section of the things a wiki owner could do himself, followed by the things that have to be done for him. That we hope, for the future, to move items from the second group into the first won't be relevant to the reader of this page. Spıke (talk)16:50 19-Oct-2017

Thanks for noticing. I have modified both. Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:17, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Rename Part-up wiki

Hi, can you rename wiki: https://partup.miraheze.org to https://r2.miraheze.org. I already discussed this with Laurens Waling. He agreed. Regards, Tim, Timboliu999 (talk) 19:16, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Can you make this request on phabricator? This noticeboard is for matters involving metawiki only (and your request should be tracked properly anyway). -- Void ^Whispers 20:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Void, I have created a task. See https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T2344. Regards, Tim, Timboliu999 (talk) 05:27, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit Meta:Abuse

Dear Admins,

I think that next to the centralauth-lock permission in the table the explanation says "This allows the staff member to lock accounts when they need to be locked for other official reasons, such as global bans, abuse, or legal concerns. It also allow the staff member to unlock accounts, either because the lock was done in error or because the concern has been alleviated. This right is exercised only from Meta, for better logging and transparency." It should say "This allows the staff member to lock accounts when they need to be locked for official reasons, such as global bans, abuse, or legal concerns. It also allow the staff member to unlock accounts, either because the lock was done in error or because the concern has been alleviated. This right is exercised only from Meta, for better logging and transparency." . The difference between the 2 statements is the deletion of the word other after the first sentence. I therefore suggest that sysops be more careful when importing pages. Also I think the page should be moved to Meta:Abuse Team and that MediaWiki:Grouppage-abuse be updated to reflect the new page.

Sincerely

-Sau226 (talk) 05:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

I've adjusted the wording. I'm rather of the opinion of moving the page to the mainspace, considering that it is a global toolset. -- Void ^Whispers 00:01, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia interwiki

My Phabricator task 2384 has resulted in discussion about process but no decision. @Reception123:'s opinion was that it should be brought up here, so I am doing so. My Phabricator request stated:

In 2013, Uncyclopedia (uncyclopedia.wikia.com) forked into two projects. The Fork (en.uncyclopedia.co) started a campaign to induce as many wikis as possible to point to it rather than the original site on the basis that "the community has moved" and the original site was "unused and abandoned." Requestor remained on the original site, became an Admin just after the split and is now a bureaucrat on sabbatical. My opinion is that, in the intervening years, the Wikia site has valued the reader while the Fork site has been operated for the sake of the authors. In the cases where the content is not identical, the Wikia site is better maintained and has more mature and entertaining content. Your call; but at the least, the arguments given for the original switch are not truth but one side's spin.

Reception123 granted the request for my own TheMirror wiki but the global issue is unresolved and the Phabricator task remains open. Spıke (talk)12:08 17-Nov-2017

This clearly needs discussion between the community so that it can be decided which one of the sites is preferred to be linked in the interwiki, and if we perhaps want to have two links (one for the Wikia wiki, one for the other). Reception123 (talk) (C) 08:06, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@Spike the Dog: The Wikia version can already be accessed at wikia:c:uncyclopedia, just like every other Wikia wiki can be accessed with wikia:c:SUBDOMAIN-NAME. Meanwhile, the only iw link for Uncyclopedia.co is uncyclopedia:. stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 12:32, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Remove uncyclopedia, leave uncyclopedia blank, and add two variants for .co and .wikia.com. I don't think we're in position to make a decision which one is "authentic". — revi 15:45, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Do we really need to make a(n another) interwiki prefix for uncyclopedia.wikia.com? Just like every other Wikia wiki, it can already be accessed with wikia:c:uncyclopedia. Besides, the people over at metawikimedia:Interwiki map once did what you suggested (which is to delete uncyclopedia: because now they're on .wikia.com), but then the editors from the true Uncyclopedia asked Wikimedia Meta to link it to the fork and they agreed. stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 02:35, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

You know what, now I support Revi's proposal (at least farmwide). Add uncyclopediaco: and uncycco: for https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/$1 and uncyclopediawikia: and wikiauncyc: for http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/$1. What does everyone think? @Spike the Dog and Reception123? stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 11:36, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

What I think is that reaching a decision here is like pulling hen's teeth. The farm-wide proposal is fine with me; I have the interwiki I wanted on my own wiki. Spıke (talk)21:17 10-Feb-2018

Authentication Required popup when logging in

When logging in on miraheze, I get an 'authentication Required' popup (firefox) saying that https://wiki.lspdfr.de is requesting my username and password, and a warning that those will not be sent tot the website I am visiting (miraheze). Strange thing.

It will keep me logged in on miraheze if I cancel the popup.

Hmm I got that on miraheze the other day. @Benx: you are the owner of said wiki, do you know anything about this? MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

This is very strange. I invite you to file a task on Phabricator about this (maybe also provide a screenshot) so that we can investigate this better. Reception123 (talk) (C) 05:56, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

I, too, get exactly the same thing on Safari whether I login on Miraheze and my own wikis. Seems pointless as it doesn't serve any purpose. It only started appearing the other day after the site went really sluggish and then went down for a short while. After that I started getting this annoying popup. Borderman ^(Talk) 11:09, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Interwiki link for Wikisource needs updating

I noticed the other day that when using the interwiki for Wikisource it didn't link correctly. I checked Special:Interwiki and it is missing the "en" prefix. It currently looks like this https://wikisource.org/wiki/$1 instead of like this https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/$1. The interwiki link I use in a reference template doesn't link to the appropriate Wikisource pages because of the missing "en" prefix. Instead it links to pages on Wikisource that don't exist. This is a problem when trying to reference material properly. Is it possible to get this updated so that the interwiki links point to the correct location? Thanks. Borderman ^(Talk) 11:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

@Borderman: I  Support this change only if oldwikisource: is created. You see, https://wikisource.org is the old and original multilingual Wikisource, and is linked to as oldwikisource: on Wikimedia wikis. Just like your proposal, Wikimedia currently has wikisource: linked to https://en.wikisource.org. stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 11:31, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Created oldwikisource, and changed wikisource to the "en" version. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:59, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Interwiki link for Miraheze Template Wiki

mtw for Miraheze Template Wiki please. So that for e.g. {{reflist}} other wiki can use {{mtw:reflist}}. Then users can collaborate on templates instead of every wiki having to re-invent the wheel for themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob Kam (talk • contribs)

I like the idea of having one wiki where users can get templates from. Though, I would like to see what other members of the community think as well. Reception123 (talk) (C) 20:13, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Should we have another vote, or should we just comment? I think that having a template wiki is a good idea. CoolieCoolster (talk) 20:22, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

It's not my wiki, I'm just one of the collaborators. I'd really like to see the community working together on this wiki. I strongly support the idea. It's something that should have happened before now but MW are too tied up in their own bureaucracy to be able to implement it. Users will still be able to have unique templates on their own wikis. --Rob Kam (talk) 22:14, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

I think having a wiki just for templates is a great idea, especially if those templates were categorised for easier identification and navigation (instead of just listed on the special page). If a user has created his or her own set of templates that he or she thinks would be useful for others, can they export/import themselves to template wiki or do templates have to go through some sort vetting process first to check for suitability? Borderman ^(Talk) 23:10, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Apparently it's a free-for-all, just put the templates up and see what happens. Perhaps other people will edit them. --Rob Kam (talk) 14:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

I am happy to assign permissions to anyone that wants them. You can consider it as a community owned wiki. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:39, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Done. Interwiki is Meta administrator's discretionary area, for now. Added as [[templatewiki:]], so it is easier to understand than "mtw". And people: Discussion about templatewiki on elsewhere (ideally on templatewiki or on Community Noticeboard) please. — revi 08:00, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. For discussion about templatewiki, use template wiki's community portal, linked in the sidebar there. --Rob Kam (talk) 10:37, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Please note the template edit on that wiki might have BIG impact on other wikis - please make sure your wiki get proper attention and if vandals are not managed we might have to disable the interwiki. — revi 10:50, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

The possibility of disastrous changes, and of malicious changes, are two good reasons for wiki owners to pull over a copy rather than just use what happens to be at templatewiki: right now. Unfortunately, the interwiki link encourages wiki owners to "simply" use the copy at templatewiki: and consider the problem solved for good. I don't know of a Special:WhatLinksHere that searches all other wikis, so there is no way to know, when improving a template there, who will be affected. Spıke (talk)12:25 6-Feb-2018

Anyone can monitor Recent changes on template wiki and fix any damage. --Rob Kam (talk) 13:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Some help required with editing Template:Stub on templatewiki

Template:Stub on Miraheze template wiki, I'd like to change This article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it. to ''This article is a stub. You can help {{SITENAME}} by expanding it.'' but can't see where to? --Rob Kam (talk) 21:34, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

https://template.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Asbox&diff=21720&oldid=13018 MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 22:30, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I get it now ... --Rob Kam (talk) 23:38, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

However inserting {{stub}} on a page produces "This article is a stub. You can help {{SITENAME}} by expanding it." i.e. the magic word isn't working, (except the comparable Lua function is mw.site.siteName). How to fix this please, (this is going further than I'd like already)? --Rob Kam (talk) 10:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Solved thanks to mw:User:Tgr.

Interwiki for The Multilingual Encyclopedia for the rest of Miraheze

Please add tmew: and tmewiki: for https://tme.miraheze.org/wiki/$1 sitewide so that I can link to TME from MTW and VW. Also, please don't add tme: as a prefix because it may conflict with TME's TME: namespace (which is its Project: namespace). --stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 03:19, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Request for interwiki links on WIXOSS Chinese Wiki

We need some interwiki links on WIXOSS Chinese Wiki (WIXOSS中文维基 wixoss.miraheze.org):

• [[萌百:$1]] for the link https://zh.moegirl.org/$1
• [[en:$1]] for the link http://selector-wixoss.wikia.com/wiki/$1

Thanks a lot! --Honoka55 (talk) 10:12, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

 Done Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:57, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Wanting to stop deletion

Hi Folks, I have asked on IRC and following up here, I would like to turn the deletion mode off on this page: https://131parkhurst.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki but the page is borked. Help! :-) Best, MarkDilley

So, I edited it and then was able to get to the page, but didn't know how to move forward, the closed box was not checked, so I checked the private wiki box and put in my reason, when submitting, got a borked page again. Have screenshot of pre & post if needed. Best, MarkDilley

And now it worked. Please let me know if have to do anything to save my wiki. Thanks, MarkDilley

@MarkDilley: Hello, indeed the Special:ManageWiki page is still not fixed, but after you left IRC the other day I manually opened your wiki, per your request, so you are fine and do not need to do anything else. Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:06, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Delete pages

hello, I request that you delete this pages: User:Wiki1776/common.js and User:Wiki1776/global.js Wiki1776 (talk) 17:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done — revi 12:10, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Choices of licenses for file uploads

When wanting to upload files to Radviser at this address, I want the following licensing alternatives:

• Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 (Recommended)
• Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0
• Creative Commons Public Domain Dedication (all rights waived)

How can these be added? Mikael Häggström (talk) 09:35, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

By editing https://www.radviser.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Licenses with the following format:

*Category 1 name
**Option 1
**Option 2
**Option 3
...
*Category 2 name
**Option 1
...

MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:30, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

開拓者 (translation administrator, moved to this page from Meta:Requests for permissions)

User: 開拓者 (contributions • CA • blocks log • rights log • global rights log)
Group: translation administrator
Reason: I found out that I can't add translation in some pages and/or sections (such as Phabricator/ja, which is not 100% translated but says so), while I was working to translate some pages into Japanese. It seems that I need this permission to modify sections of translation to an appropriate manner (not just editing the <translation> tags).

Additional comments: If I'm granted, I'd like to complete the translation works into Japanese. I might also work on other languages, if possible.--開拓者 (talk) 08:48, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Comments/Questions

Other users feel free to support/oppose/abstain from this RfP but please state your reasoning below.(copied and moved from Meta:Requests for permissions)--開拓者 (talk) 09:42, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

I've fixed that page for you. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 12:12, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. But still I'd like to ask for permission, because I find some pages are not listed (such as System administrators, Contributing, and Dormancy Policy) in Special:LanguageStats/ja (which are part of the policies and should be listed for translation), and others are structurally difficult to translate because the sections are divided within one sentence (in fact, grammatical structures in Japanese are quite different from that of English and other Indo-European languages, making it difficult to translate when divided into too many sections), and I'd like to edit those pages (and others alike, as soon as I find them) to make it easier to translate.--開拓者 (talk) 12:43, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

No concerns,  Done. Though, please do pay attention to any corrections made by other admins. Also note, that you will not be able to make all policy pages translatable as this does not grant the ability to edit fully protected pages. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 20:13, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :) I'll keep your advice in mind.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 20:50, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Translation error in Help center

Hi. I've found out that when I try to add the discord link in translated pages, it fails, saying:

Saving the translation failed: This namespace is reserved for content page translations. The page you are trying to edit does not seem to correspond any page marked for translation.

I guess something's wrong, but I'm not sure what it actually is. It happened after the page was edited by Reception123, so I guess it's something related to the revision, but now the page is protected and only admins can modify it, which is why I post this issue here.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 10:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, works for me, could have been a temporary thing? I dunno. -- Void ^Whispers 15:14, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Right, I guess it was a temporary thing after all, because it works fine now.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 00:42, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Marking fully protected pages for translation

Hi, I've been working as a translation admin, and I found out that there are some pages that I think should be marked for translation, but couldn't because they were protected. Thus, I'll post a list of pages to request to mark for translation, so that admins can mark it. Here are the pages I'd like to list up:

• Donate - Translation can allow more foreign users to donate to Miraheze.
• Dormancy Policy - It's one of the important policies regarding wiki, isn't it?
• Dormancy_Policy/Exemptions - It's a list, but the reasons and the descriptions should be marked for translation, as it can be helpful for those making such requests.
• Security - It makes it easier for foreign users to report security issues, if any.
• System administrators - You know, other pages about privileged permissions are all marked for translation, and this should also be, to understand what they do.
• Meta:Copyrights - We should always be aware of copyrights and licenses. No matter what language we use.
• Template:Wiki created - Though it is manually translated, I think we should use the same extension-based translation.
  • I haven't marked {{Wiki created(CD)}} for translation yet, because it causes differences between these two, I will, after {{Wiki created}} is marked.

Thanks for reading.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 13:15, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Dormancy Policy/Exemptions and System administrators are lists which IMO have no no need for translations. The wiki creation templates are already translated without the translate system. Using translate for these would require modification of User:Void/createWikiNotify.js, and would require usage of Template:TNT. I've marked the other pages for translation. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 17:12, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Though I'm not sure enough why the page System administrators has no need for translation in your opinion (for other pages, I guess you're right), I'll work on other pages marked for translation.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 04:42, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Request for adding MediaWiki:Edittools

Hi, I'd like to request for adding edittools on meta, since, as a wiki creator, we use a set of particular templates a lot, and it will be more efficient for us, if we could just click to add such templates. Templates that should be added and the formats are:

• {{subst:Wiki created|https://+.miraheze.org}}({{Wiki created}})
• {{subst:Wiki created/de|https://+.miraheze.org}}({{Wiki created/de}})
• {{subst:Wiki created/es|https://+.miraheze.org}}({{Wiki created/es}})
• {{subst:Wiki created/fr|https://+.miraheze.org}}({{Wiki created/fr}})
• {{subst:Wiki created/ja|https://+.miraheze.org}}({{Wiki created/ja}})
• {{subst:Wiki created/nl|https://+.miraheze.org}}({{Wiki created/nl}})
• {{subst:Wiki created(CD)|https://+.miraheze.org}}({{Wiki created(CD)}})
• {{subst:Requestdenyexists}}({{Requestdenyexists}})
• {{subst:Requestdenyinvalid}}({{Requestdenyinvalid}})
• {{subst:Requestdenymalformed}}({{Requestdenymalformed}})
• {{subst:Requestdenytesting}}({{Requestdenytesting}})

Thank you.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 03:39, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@開拓者: Please also note that for the first 7 templates you mention, you don't need to manually add them, you can just use this script in your settings, and it will do it for you after you created the wiki. Reception123 (talk) (C) 05:31, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Reception123: I guess you're right about the first 7 templates, but for declined requests, we still need to manually type those templates, and it's better for us if we can just add them by clicking.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 09:00, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Not exactly sure how it works, but I see no issue in adding the templates. Reception123 (talk) (C) 10:50, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Reception123: Thanks. Here's how to do it.

1. It seems that you first need to enable Extension:CharInsert here on meta (as it is disabled), so a bureaucrat should (and can, which means no additional installations are required) first go to Special:ManageWiki to enable it.
2. Add some lines for the requested templates on MediaWiki:Edittools in this format: <span style="margin-left:1ex;white-space:nowrap"><charinsert><nowiki>{{subst:Requestdenyexists}}</charinsert></nowiki>.
3. Wrap the whole content with <p id="edittools_wikimarkup"></p>.
4. After the page is saved, that edittool will appear right under the editbox, and by clicking a template, it will be added in the wikitext.
5. You can also add other templates, tags, characters, or whatever you want, if necessary. edittools on my wiki may be a good sample for it.

--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 12:26, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:17, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Now it's working fine :)--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 06:51, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit a page

The CVT team page is wrong. The link on there should point to the Requests for global rights page instead unless there is a good reason not to do so. Regards Sau226 (talk) 11:35, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the observation,  Done Reception123 (talk) (C) 14:34, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit another page

Please create MediaWiki:Grouppage-flood with Meta:Flooders as its contents. This is a page referred to by Special:ListGroupRights. Regards Sau226 (talk) 18:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

need translate rights

I need translations right to translate to arabic and update french pages -- Bachounda (talk) 07:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

moved from meta:Translator.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 10:07, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Please hide wiki from public

Hello.

Could you please hide my wiki from public visibility ? It is supposed to be a team's collaborative system.

Thank you. Gerbm (talk) 05:57, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

It seems someone has already done it. You can do it from Special:ManageWiki, in general.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 11:57, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, just a note that the Main Page of your wiki is always publicly visible, even if the wiki is set to private. Amanda Catherine (talk) 13:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

User is already CVT, therefore  granted. Reception123 (talk) (C) 11:45, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

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Request for a local rollback

Hi, I'd like to request for a local rollback here on meta. I think I can help fighting the vandals here that way. Thanks.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 11:28, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

User is already CVT, therefore  granted. Reception123 (talk) (C) 11:45, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

UltimateYupper

This user is behaving disruptively. In addition to their disruptive edits, their user page is almost without a doubt copy-pasted from someone at WMF, although I don’t know who. I have warned them, but I would recommend a block if their disruptive edits continue. Amanda Catherine (talk) 14:05, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

 Comment: The user has been blocked for a week by MacFan4000.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 14:22, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive creation of pages from Marseillaise

I gave User:Marseillaise a final warning after they constantly creating test pages and weren't stopping. See https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMarseillaise&type=revision&diff=58514&oldid=58513 for the final warning, https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Marseillaise&diff=prev&oldid=58503 this diff for the second warning that was given by User:Amanda Catherine and https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Marseillaise&oldid=58497 for the first warning. Despite a final warning, this user still created a blank page at Talk:Request features/header/ro‎‎ after I have told them to stop. Could an admin please take some action over this problem. Thanks. Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry...that last page was me just seeing if it was possible to make blank pages. But I'll go do my tests somewhere else now. Marseillaise (talk) 11:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@Marseillaise: Thanks for apologising. I hope you don't test on meta again. If you would like to do testing, please do it on publictestwiki. I already granted you administrator permits there. However, meta is not the place to test. Thank you. Pkbwcgs (talk) 11:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@Marseillaise: What is your problem? You apologised and said that you will go somewhere else to do your tests. So what is this about? Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry....I guess I wasn't thinking right. Marseillaise (talk) 13:26, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@Marseillaise: You apologised but you done it again. You have tested over here. For the fifth time, Meta is not the place to test. Test on publictestwiki. Adding non-existent categories which is equally disruptive which is what you did here. You said you 'wasn't thinking right'. It is fine if you done it once as a mistake but it is not fine to do it repetitively as it is disruptive. You done it after you apologised the second time. If you continue to be disruptive on meta, you may be blocked. This is your very final warning. Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:27, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I understand. I will try to stay away from being blocked, I certainly don't want that. Marseillaise (talk) 17:53, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Can an admin please handle the problem. This user is still trying to test on meta and is adding non-existent categories to their talk page. Meta is not the place to do testing. I warned them many times. Pkbwcgs (talk) 20:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

IMO editing their own user/user talk pages isn’t an issue. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:02, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I am not an Admin but agree that editing one's own user page should not be an issue. Editing one's own user talk page could be an issue if it interferes with the talk (such as falsifying or removing other people's comments). Adding nonexistent categories doesn't interfere with the talk. However, the entire pattern of behavior suggests that the user's goal is to annoy or get others to pay attention to him, which Admins should actively discourage. Spıke (talk)01:15 30-Aug-2018

@MacFan4000: The user was disruptive outside their userspace as well if you look in their contributions. Pkbwcgs (talk) 06:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Administrators, I think a block may be necessary here for the amount of disruptive editing. This edit is certainly unacceptable and I have given enough warnings and I certainly had enough of this. I have reminded Marseillaise many times to not test out of their userspace. I have suggested them to go to publictestwiki to do testing but they are just testing in Meta. Yes, testing in the userspace is acceptable but testing outside the userspace is unacceptable on meta and a block may be necessary as a result of the disruptive editing as it is not stopping. Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:16, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Do your testing at publictestwiki.com, you.

Spambot

193.201.224.52 is spamming persistently. See [1]. Could someone please globally block them. Thanks. Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:26, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

I caught User:RileyCotton and User:Emanuelzozor spamming on Special:AbuseLog. Could a steward or a member of CVT please block them. Pkbwcgs (talk) 15:13, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the report, however as the name indicates, this noticeboard is exclusively for Meta and Meta administrators. So, if possible, when requesting help from Stewards and CVT please use Community noticeboard or Stewards noticeboard if it's restricted to stewards. Reception123 (talk) (C) 18:26, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Okay. Understood. Pkbwcgs (talk) 19:10, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Please handle Special:AbuseLog/78100

Hi, since meta is opted out from CVT, I'd like to have this case handled by a local admin. Thanks.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 22:22, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

User has been globally locked. CnocBride | Talk | Contribs 13:42, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Request for autopatrolled

Can someone please add the autopatrolled flag to my account here on Meta? Thanks. Amanda Catherine (talk) 19:12, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

 Done John (talk) 19:22, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Request for adminship and bureaucrat

Hi, I'd love to request to become an administrator and bureaucrat on Miraheze. I'm really interested in reverting vandalism, save peoples user pages from vandalism. I have reverted an inappropriate edit from User:Amanda Catherine. She awarded me with the vandalism award. I'd love to step in and become a hero and join in the piece of the action, plus I have lots of knowledge and more to share. Louise3 (talk) 20:08, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

•  Weak oppose While I appreciate your efforts to revert vandalism and I applaud your enthusiasm, I don’t think you are active enough, both on this wiki independently, and in the global Miraheze community, to be granted these rights. Perhaps try again in a month or two once you have more experience and activity. Amanda Catherine (talk) 20:12, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

•  Strong oppose In light of further evidence that has now come to my attention, it is perfectly clear that the candidate is not being honest or forthcoming. Amanda Catherine (talk) 20:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

1 this isn’t the right place for this, 2. If you want to to anti vandal/anti spam work then CVT is probobly a better option. MacFan4000 ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:13, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Restoration of Sovereign.miraheze

Hi all, we managed to get ourselves deleted for inactivity, even after checking and resetting the warning to let everyone know we are still active and maintaining the wiki. The majority of the Sovereign wiki is for the most part archived, meaning very few edits are now made. We have a list of role-plays that we need to maintain and can't be done by just one person (it creates an unweildly mess). Can we have this back or at the very least the data so that we can upload the information elsewhere? We're quite surprised that there was no attempt to contact us before the wiki was deleted yesterday. Enfaru (talk) 13:10, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, we cannot restore the wiki content as we have no backup for the wiki. Since the backup was refreshed at 00:00am utc a few hours after deleting the wiki. Your welcome to request the same wiki through CreateWiki. You could even have your wiki whitelisted in future so it's not closed. See Dormancy Policy. And we apologize for any inconvenience caused by this. Paladox (talk) 18:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

O_O no backup!? Welp, that's the last time I use Miraheze. The entire point of using Miraheze was to have an online resource that could be used for a long period in the future and we would have at least liked to have an email that the board was going to be closed before you went ahead and deleted it. I've checked my emails and there's nothing, nada, no contact from Miraheze (and Miraheze emails are white listed and filtered into an appropriate folder for priority). You've cost us months and months of work so I am distinctly not happy. Enfaru (talk) 20:45, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

We do have backups just we deleted your wiki before a fresh backup was done which is done every sunday. You would have received your email 4months ago about the wiki being closed. Paladox (talk) 21:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

To clarify, the backups we have are for internal use. Users must request that there wiki is backups which is then accessible through static.miraheze.org/dumps. Paladox (talk) 21:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

As I never delete my emails (for that address) I can confirm no such email was received four months ago. Who's bright idea was it to delete right before the backups are all deleted? Again, I took all necessary steps including making sure I had deactivated the notification on Sovereign at the time it was first flagged. If additional actions were required it needs to be made clearer/easier to undertake including the need to 'request' a backup of which I had no idea I would need to do. I had long been under the impression that backups would be kept for at least a week which users could request to roll back to in case of issue. You've screwed up so own it and do something about it to protect other users from suffering the same fate.

One last item: The email I was sent for another wiki states that I had six months from 7th June 2018 (this seems roughly like the time when I noted the wiki was marked for closure), which would mean the earliest time it should have been due for 'potential' deletion (as the email makes clear) is 7th November 2018. Not 120 days but at least six months. I've also just checked the Dormancy Policy which states that 180 not 120 days is required to elapse...which ties in with the six months. The dormancy also states that "Users will have a minimum time after each notice to fix the problem if they wish" meaning that 245 days should have passed before a flat out deletion or six months past the closure date. So much not happy. Enfaru (talk) 22:57, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Replying with comments to quotes;

• "Who's bright idea was it to delete right before the backups are all deleted?" It was no ones. However because of a lack of funding, we have to be extremely conservative with backups and it is unfortunately a consequence of this, that this happened.
• "Again, I took all necessary steps including making sure I had deactivated the notification on Sovereign at the time it was first flagged." Looking into the logs, the wiki was never marked as active or open after it was initially closed in June. The records, therefore, that Miraheze has retained with relation to this shows the wiki was inactive since approximately April and therefore enforcing the community-agreed Dormancy Policy was within Miraheze's rights. As we were not made aware of any issue regarding the functioning of our software being defective, Miraheze has no liability regarding the deletion of the wiki and its content.
• "including the need to 'request' a backup of which I had no idea I would need to do. I had long been under the impression that backups would be kept for at least a week which users could request to roll back to in case of issue." We have never, at any time, not said users must request their own backups. It is clear and prominent on Backups, on the FAQ with the latter being prominently linked on several high profile pages as well as every single wiki upon creation. I do not know where you have gotten this information from, however, it is not from Miraheze.
• "You've screwed up so own it and do something about it to protect other users from suffering the same fate." Miraheze and consequently it's operations staff have not screwed up. A process has been followed which has allowed sufficient time to resolve an issue and that was not resolved on the user part. Users are protected and in 3 years, this is the only case of this happening. There was one previous case of a wiki being deleted mistakenly, however because of backups being in place by the request of the wiki community it was resolved quickly and sufficiently as soon as the issue was brought to our attention.
• "Not 120 days but at least six months." The Dormancy Policy is clear in this regard. Wikis are closed after 60 days of inactivity and deleted after a further 120 days of inactivity. The wiki was closed approximately midnight of June 7th 2018 and therefore was eligible for deletion on October 4th 2018 (having been 120 days since it was closed, thus 180 days since it was last active).
• "The dormancy also states that "Users will have a minimum time after each notice to fix the problem if they wish" meaning that 245 days should have passed before a flat out deletion or six months past the closure date." You are misreading the policy to put it within your favour. There is a table which shows the minimum notice periods, they are not additive as you are putting them. 180 days is the minimum period with regards to deletion not 245 days. The minimum period is never stated except within the table as a reference, it is therefore inferred the minimum period is the time between two distinct actions (inactivity warning at 45 days, closure at 60 days - therefore the minimum notice period will be 15 days. As in there will be a minimum of 15 days between an inactivity warning and a closure notice at all regards).

Not a quoted comment however; you are arguing that you were never notified by Miraheze that your wiki was closed yet are telling us you were aware. Your argument seems to based on a lack of proper communication however there are no required standards of communication from with regard to this matter besides the on-wiki notice. You were informed of the intended actions as required by policy and thus you confirm you were aware of both the state of the wiki and the policy at hand.

John (talk) 23:48, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

For some reason, www.marinebiodiversitymatrix.org does not work, but “marinebiodiversitymatrix.org” (without the “www”) does.

For some reason, www.marinebiodiversitymatrix.org does not work, but “marinebiodiversitymatrix.org” (without the “www”) does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iucnelcwiki (talk • contribs)

@Iucnelcwiki: Replied via email. Reception123 (talk) (C) 09:47, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Custom domain

I am the admin of Gyaanipedia. https://gyaanipedia.miraheze.org I had followed all the steps for custom domain two days ago but it doesn't work my custom domain is http://gyaanipedia.co.in please help me Shaunak Chakraborty (talk)

@Shaunak Chakraborty: File it on phabricator. আ হ ম সাকিব (T) (C) 09:28, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes please see Phabricator for how to do so and read Custom domains. Reception123 (talk) (C) 20:03, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Delete Account

Hi, could you please delete my account? Thanks in advance!

Hi, unfortunately accounts aren't deleted. You can change communication settings including removing your emails on Special:Preferences. Paladox (talk) 14:33, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Reporting a vandal only IP

This IP has created pages containing a discriminating sentence. I'd like to have it dealt by local admins, as meta is opted out from CVT. Thanks.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 04:02, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

 Done. You are free to block in such situations, especially when it would prevent further disruption. -- Void ^Whispers 07:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

OK, I can technically do that, but upon which policy can I take such actions (provided that I'm only a CVT and not a local admin, and meta is a CVT opted-out wiki)? Should I interpret it as "a local CVT request made by myself (as the local member of meta)"?--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 09:20, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, I'd think of it this way: If the user is actively (and persistently) vandalizing meta (as meta is the only wiki where CVT's can still block despite being opted-out), and you cannot get in touch with a local admin in a short enough time to deal with it promptly, you are free to block. This is based entirely on the premise of limiting as much disruption as possible. I guess in this case though, I wouldn't count two pages as being "active and persistent," so you probably wouldn't need to block, unless you are further unable to monitor the situation and think it will continue. -- Void ^Whispers 17:50, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Antoine Lemperrière and Corinne lebrouch

These are 2 users we're having issues with in Awful Movies Wikia. They keep making useless categories and they steal and vandalize my sandbox and user page! Can you please lock them? -Chaofun

They're technically identical sockpuppets. I've only blocked Antoine on awfulmovieswiki because I'm not sure I see enough reason to globally lock them for now. Two things for you though. First, similar requests should be made on the Stewards' noticeboard. Second, could you please not make such explosive comments as those you left on Antoine's talk page?

Thanks. -- Void ^Whispers 22:19, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

I apologize, but that user has done something that constantly I couldn't take it. -Chaofun

Autopatrollers right

I occasionally will on here for doing the Chinese language translation on the policy guideline pages, if got any legitimate translation pages, I can mark those pages as patrolled. SA 13 Bro (talk) 00:35, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you MacFan4000. :) SA 13 Bro (talk) 04:23, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Reporting an open proxy

This IP has been blocked on Wikipedia because It is an open proxy. Although thi IP did not make any edits on this wiki, please block this IP. Ofreporter_{Send me a message!} 11:25, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

•  Done I checked it out on Wikipedia and found that the block there has already expired a long time ago, and it looks to me that the local admin simply forgot to remove his/her test block. However, it looks like it is indeed a proxy according to my research, so it's done per our no open proxies policy.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 12:21, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

dumpbackup.php

Do you guys have telnet/SSH access? Is it permissible to ask for backups of our wiki? When I did it myself, I would use dumpbackup.php and just keep the current version, in case anything truly horrible happened. It would probably be impossible to email, but is there some kind of backup somewhere? --Aquatiki (talk) 12:53, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

@Aquatiki: Please see Backups. -- Void ^Whispers 13:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh, sorry I missed that. Thanks! --Aquatiki (talk) 13:46, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Account hacked

I can’t log in into my account, Ofreporter. I want to create a new account to solve it. The temporary password is too complicated. 14.0.153.195 07:41, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@14.0.153.195: In the title you say it was "hacked", how do you know this? As for creating a new account, go ahead. Reception123 (talk) (C) 07:45, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

I knew that my account was hacked because I lost my password. 14.0.153.195 08:59, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Redirection to my user page

This account has been hacked. I tried several times, but it didn't work. So to prevent further disruption to my former account, please immediately block that account and enable all the features (autoblock, prevent account creation, watch user page and it's talk page, etc) that are available. Additionally, I cannot change the user page of my former account because there was a error message shown. Please change this user page to a redirect with it's content only being #Redirect [[User:LegoMaster]]. Thank you. LegoMaster (talk) 12:12, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@LegoMaster: Unfortunately, we cannot do that since there is no way for us to confirm that the account has indeed been hacked / that you are the same person. Because, in this way any user could claim that an account was compromised, so we cannot simply block any account like that. So, this would not be possible. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Vandal IP 2a01:e35:2e16:e540:bd78:72fe:9607:3e8d

Please can someone block special:contributions/2a01:e35:2e16:e540:bd78:72fe:9607:3e8d please. I see that the IP creating unnecessary pages in the user contribs page please block the ip 😄😄😄Psl631 (Let's Chat!) 11:57, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I have deleted the pages, but that is not a reason to block, as it appears the user thought Meta was their own wiki. Reception123 (talk) (C) 12:14, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

OK Psl631 (Let's Chat!) 12:48, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Coniverse

Can my wiki request be accepted please? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/7555

OtherRatio, this noticeboard is not meant for this sort of topic, please just wait patiently for a wiki creator to review your request. Also please make sure to sign your talk page posts with ~~~~ Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 12:53, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

LegoMaster

As this user is creating wikis and notifying users, he is trusted enough to also get autopatrolled so his edits won't need manual review. Cheers! Spıke (talk)22:20 20-Mar-2019

Easily said, easily  Done -- Void ^Whispers 23:21, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

So am I trusted enough to become an admin? LegoMaster (talk - contribs - logs - uploads - global contribs) 00:27, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

I didn't assert that! only that your edits don't need to be analyzed individually for evidence of vandalism! If you want oppage, make your case in the usual way. Spıke (talk)00:36 22-Mar-2019

What do you mean by that? LegoMaster (talk - contribs - logs - uploads - global contribs) 01:26, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

The Patrol feature marks every edit from an anonymous or new user so that a Patroller is told to verify it is not vandalism. What happened here is that I suggested that we can assume that your edits are not vandalism. "What I mean" above is that nothing else happened here. If you want to be an Admin, ask to be an Admin. Spıke (talk)01:41 22-Mar-2019

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I can also vouch for User:Simsilikesims, an Admin from Uncyclopedia, as deserving autopatrolled, though I don't know if she will have an ongoing reason to stay here. Spıke (talk)23:06 5-Apr-2019

how do I delete my account?

How do I delete my account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredm-area49 (talk • contribs)

You can not delete accounts, and we do not usually delete accounts either. If you would like, we can lock your account, or you can make a request via the Data Request Process. Reception123 (talk) (C) 13:41, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

User:Pinky Malinky and User:Mar9122 have blocked me on a wiki I OWN.

Please block User:Mar9122 and User:Pinky Malinky have taken over my wiki by blocking me. Can you give them a punishment please? They took over Horrid Reception Wikis Wiki.

horridreceptionwikis.miraheze.org is the wiki they took over.

I've removed the block and will continue to monitor the situation. -- Void ^Whispers 21:15, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

How can I become a Translator?

I would like to help with translation. When I tried to translate the page "Help Center", it says to me to go on https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Translator for asking to become a translator, but this page was deleted. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 09:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I've added the rights to your account, and will take a look at fixing those pages soon. -- Void ^Whispers 21:18, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Interwiki oddity

The interwiki prefix Meta:, when used on Meta, does not redirect to Meta. It might seem absurd to allow editors to use an interwiki that does nothing but redirect to the same wiki, but I was trying to devise standard code for my signature on all wikis to point to Meta, and the one on Meta didn't work. The fix was obvious but you might consider whether this interwiki would be useful. Spıke (talk)23:29 4-Apr-2019

I think this conflict is caused by the Meta: namespace. We do also have m: that works on all wikis (including meta). Example: m:User:Void. I tend to use it for global renames, as I can link to the original request on all wikis without needing to paste in the entire URL. -- Void ^Whispers 23:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Of course it would! Thanks for the lesson; I'll use m: instead. Spıke (talk)23:58 4-Apr-2019

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But evidently, the part of my signature that is a template cannot transclude via an interwiki, so I cannot have other wikis look to Meta for the master signature but must maintain copies. Is this so? Spıke (talk)02:58 5-Apr-2019

Delete account

Please delete my account according to the GDPR.--Micru (talk) 07:25, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done by Paladox Asapo (talk) 00:12, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Can you give me the permission to edit meta wiki? I want translate pages into Chinese

Can you give me the permission to edit meta wiki? I want translate pages into Chinese — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fukahire (talk • contribs)

@Fukahire: What specific pages do you want to translate? Reception123 (talk) (C) 06:21, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki This page

I've added translate to your user rights. You should now be able to translate! -- Void ^Whispers 22:30, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!

What if I want to change my wiki's database name?

I have created a wiki and I am thinking to rename its database name. Is it possible to do this in a simple manner (just requesting to move all the wiki to the new database name) or I have to create a new wiki and then copy the pages there? Can also the old database name redirect to the new one? --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 00:40, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Please file a request on phabricator. (Use this form). -- Void ^Whispers 01:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

full backup

could I please request a full backup copy of all files of my wiki https://ayrshire.miraheze.org

Signature for autoarchive. — revi 09:05, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Won't let me create account!

Every time I try to create an account, after I enter all information it leads me to a page titled Special:CentralLogin, gives me an error, and sends me back to the create account page. If I try to do the same username, it tells me I can't. If I login, it tells me I can't. Please help! 69.131.25.121 13:22, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I tried again and this time it worked. Sorry! Booker (talk) 13:26, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

2600:387:5:80D:0:0:0:B4

• 2600:387:5:80D:0:0:0:B4 (talk | block | global block)

They are vandalizing Miraheze Meta. - PlavorSeol (T | C) 10:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

 Blocked. As it looks like the range has already been blocked globally, I have extended the duration globally as well. And thanks for reverting their edits.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 11:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I have also found out that the incident reports cannot be fixed due to an error, and thus filed a phab task on this issue.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 11:20, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Yikes... anon IPs shouldn't be able to do any logged action except creating a page or an account.. and frankly nobody except sysadmins should be able to modify incident reports. This appears to a bug that needs to be patched. Although @開拓者: are you sure you gave the right link to the Phab task? When I follow that link it says that no object with that ID exists. Amanda Catherine (talk) 14:25, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

That task (T4415) is restricted. - PlavorSeol (T | C) 14:29, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Why? There's no private information involved since the actions were made anonymously and therefore the IP address is already public. I would doubt that there's any PII in the actual incident reports themselves, since all of them are publicly visible to anyone (but shouldn't be editable to anyone except sysadmins and maybe stewards). I'd recommend that the restrictions be lifted since there doesn't appear to be a privacy issue. Amanda Catherine (talk) 14:40, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

The reason why it is restricted is because I have reported as a security issue, since if the edit by the vandal destroyed the pages, I thought it might be some kind of vulnerability. Thus, whether or not it contains private info is not the reason.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 14:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Now the phab task is resolved, and is disclosed to the public by John. I think you can check what it was all about.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 15:29, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Revibot will need IPBlock exemption

Whereas doing stuff automatically without my intervention is desired, I am now running Revibot's Autoarchive job on Heroku. Heroku runs on top of Amazon Web Services, which is essentially a NOP violation. I want to ensure it can run even when the underlying IP is blocked (it was not the case for today's trial but there's no guarantee) so I need an IPBE. However as I see I can't grant my bot IPBE using Special:UserRights/Revibot. Anyone has a objection to make the usergroup? Or is it already part of some other user groups? If there is none, can some crat create one for me? Thanks. — revi 08:54, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done on all wikis. John (talk) 10:36, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

International Office

International Office (talk) may need a username block as a username that implies shared use or some position of authority. Not completely sure about this one though - I have no idea if "International Office" is itself an organization, or if they're attempting to represent or imply some authority over something else with the term "office", or whether this is a complete false positive. Amanda Catherine (talk) 15:32, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

I have completely no idea. Since we do not have a username policy, I do not care about these usernames. Fungster ^{(contribs - email - CA)} 05:58, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

리브레 위키 대피소 libre.miraheze.org was vandalized by User:리브레위키대피소혁명

Please undo all his vandalism --Dongyomania (talk) 03:24, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done, although similar requests should be on the Stewards' noticeboard. -- Void ^Whispers 04:42, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Translator rights

Please, may you give me translator rights? I want to translate pages to British English. Fungster ^{(contribs - email - CA)} 09:50, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

This is an interesting question, as I'm not even sure in which type of English we've written so far. I'd like someone else's opinion on this. Reception123 (talk) (C) 14:29, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

I’m curious if the difference in reality. Besides 2 staff members, I think we all learnt and use British English - personal preference but I believe our default is Queens English. John (talk) 17:41, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Actually, there was some little difference of vocabulary between U.S. English and U.K. English. U.S. English may considering as traditional type of vocabulary, and U.K. English is modern kind of vocabulary. Example like the words "colour" (in traditional English as "color"), "neighbour" (in traditional English as "neighbor"), "centre" (in traditional English as "center"), "biscuit" (in traditional English may refer as "cookie" or "cracker"), "holiday" (in traditional English as "vacation"), date format like "16 February 1987" (in traditional English as "February 16, 1987"), and so on. Here are worldwide hosting server, most of us and the MediaWiki software interface are using the vocabulary type of modern English (U.K. English), except for some certain interface are using the vocabulary type of U.S. English, translating the additional kind of vocabulary English maybe a little bit of enhance the unwanted space. @Fungster: You are already a Meta:Autoconfirmed users, you have the "Edit using the translate interface (translate)" privilege is that thought? SA 13 Bro (talk) 02:45, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

It is odd to call my American dialect "traditional" and the British stuff "modern." The English did invent English; only later did we get it. I have not noticed British usage on Meta. In my international collaborations, the rules are: (1) Use the appropriate dialect, if there is one (such as an article on the Queen), but (2) Don't distract the reader by going back and forth between dialects; edit the page to support the style it uses. Spıke (talk)03:54 13-Jun-2019

I think the rules that Spike proposes make sense. I don't see a need for translating into "British English" or "American English" since the differences are minor and unnoticeable. Reception123 (talk) (C) 17:03, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

...And I'm the oddball who uses Canadian English :). TBH though there's very little, if any difference between Canadian English and U.S. English - maybe some small spelling differences or grammar preferences, but (outside of Quebec) that's about it. I agree that there is no need to split languages into the different varieties of English. Amanda Catherine (talk) 22:25, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

@John: I think our default is American English, because we have translating options for en-gb (British English) and en-ca (Canadian English), but not en-us. Considering that around 300 million English speakers are from the US, otherwise we should've had the option.
@Fungster: You don't need to have the translator rights as you are already autoconfirmed. The translator permission is mainly for those who want to translate our content but has no permissions (yet).
Generally speaking, I agree with the point that we don't need to translate into en-gb or en-ca (because the differences are usually minor enough to be ignored, and personally speaking, I feel British English today is getting closer and closer to American English in many cases). The similar thing applies to the set of variations we have in Chinese; I think all the set of translations should be merged into zh (and Portuguese (pt vs pt-br), Spanish (es vs es-formal vs es-419), German (de vs de-at vs de-ch vs de-formal), etc as well).--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 01:38, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

I agree with Pioneer generally speaking which had make the point on that, thought it should proposal to delete away the redundant of Chinese translation pages. Even the main Chinese translation pages are used the traditional characters, it has the variant preference to select the characters as simplified Chinese for readers, given the redundant of translation pages are going to enhance the unwanted space. SA 13 Bro (talk) 06:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

greenleft.miraheze.org has disappeared can I get it back?

the entire content and page has disappeared, can I get it back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreenLeft (talk • contribs)

It was marked as deleted due to inactivity, but luckily the data wasn't completely deleted yet. Now I've undeleted the wiki, and it should be available. If you wish to keep your wiki, try to be active or consider applying for the Dormancy Policy exemption.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 12:08, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Proposal to have inactivity clause for Meta admins

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Discussion seemed to have reached consensus, I am closing this as the RfC is already active. Fungster ^{(contribs - email - CA)} 09:59, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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I know I am a new user here, and I do not really get the functioning of Miraheze and Meta yet but I have been looking around at the current policies. What I find does not make sense is that the wiki creators can be removed if they don't have any actions in 3 months, but there is no inactivity clause for administrators. In my opinion admins are people who have to be active to enforce the policies and rules of Meta and there is no point in having an administrator if he or she is inactive. That's why I am proposing that a clause is added to the administrator policy that states Administrators who have not contributed to the community in any form for at least six months, may have their rights removed by a bureaucrat. The contribution may not be a single edit or a simply a few edits made to circumvent this clause. I hope this is the right place to make this proposal as I don't know since I am kind of new here. --DeeM28 (talk) 19:31, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Support

1.  Support As the proposer of the added condition my reasoning is listed in my statement that is above. --DeeM28 (talk) 19:31, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Oppose

1.  Oppose For this community, i believe that it should be steward/‘crat’s discretion if an desysop should occur for inactivity. Zppix (Meta | CVT Member | talk to me) 21:40, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
2.  Oppose You are "kind of new here." Recommend achievement before legislation. Recommend no legislation at all in the absence of a problem. The trust placed in Admins, and changes in real-world schedules, should not be ruled by an arbitrary measure of activity. Spıke (talk)22:03 16-Jun-2019
3.  Oppose Per the comment I made below.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 03:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Comments

@Amanda Catherine: @Spike: @Paladox: @Reception123: @Fungster: @SA 13 Bro: @開拓者: Since you are users who are active in discussions here This is an invitation (so don't feel obliged) but I would like to invite you to comment here. Thank you. --DeeM28 (talk) 20:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Just a minor comment noting we actually have no policy for Administrators or Bureaucrats on Meta. Therefore the focus should be on the roles of both as well as including things like usage, appointment, removals etc. and with the lack of a policy, discretion for removing sysops lies with a bureaucrat, so I could theoretically remove a user right now if they're inactive. John (talk) 20:39, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

@DeeM28: I accolade your clause opinion, but Miraheze Meta-Wiki are not WMF Meta-Wiki, so we have no any policy for those inactive admins. Admins on Meta primarily focus duties are keep locally clean from vandals and spammers, and here is not much vandals or spammers activity than WMF Meta-Wiki. Hence, theoretically are discretion by John. SA 13 Bro (talk) 00:31, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Good point, but as SA 13 Bro already pointed out, there aren't a lot of vandalism to deal with here on meta. This means that some admins may not have chances to use their advanced permissions. Thus, I don't think we need an inactivity clause (yet).--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 03:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Per John's comment, I will be making a local RfC to have an actual policy for appointment and removal of administrators here on Meta, since now, as he says everything is bureaucrat discretion. Reception123 (talk) (C) 04:40, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

You can now comment here, where the initial proposal made here has been included. Reception123 (talk) (C) 05:30, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hide the title and the category bar on the main page, but in different languages

Hello, today i've been browsing a bit through Meta to see where i can add translations to the spanish language and i noticed a detail: On the main page (original english language) the title and the category bar of the page are hidden, but if someone changes to other languages, they are still there. I think that for reasons of appearance should be hidden in other languages. Regards. --Dark Dragoon (talk) 14:17, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out! Void has taken care of this. Reception123 (talk) (C) 16:51, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

RfPP

Hi, i am a former wiki creator, and current autopatroller. May you please protect the redirects User:Ofreporter, User:LegoMaster, User talk:Ofreporter and User talk:LegoMaster as fully protected? It is kept for archival purposes. Thanks. --Fungster ^{(contribs - email - CA)} 09:32, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done I have protected the talk pages and semi-protected the user pages (so that you can edit it for yourself when it becomes necessary, and considering that most user pages are only semi-protected).--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 06:41, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Application of the new administrator and bureaucrat policies

After the voting of the new Request for Comment on the new administrator and bureaucrat policies I would like to request that administrator is removed from the users I will list below because of the inactivity reasons. NDKilla: Only six contributions on Meta in the past six months. And before barely any in 2018.
Labster: Very few contributions in general which don't need admin --DeeM28 (talk) 19:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

• NDKilla is declined as the definition of inactivity is not using administrative privileges at all in 6 months or engaging in the community. They have engaged in the community in at least 4 of those 6 edits.
• Labster is declined as he edits Finance which is sysop-protected. Therefore every edit is seemed a sysop-action which means the activity criteria is met.

Therefore there are no grounds for revocation under inactivity - if you wish to open a request for removal then the appropriate venues of Meta:Requests for permissions exists. John (talk) 20:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Translate the content that is inside a table

Hi guys, i just finished translating Dormancy Policy to spanish, as you will see it appears that it has been translated 100% but the contents of the table i could not translate it with the form. I have tried to edit it without the form and i can not either, so i came to ask for help, to see if you can tell me what to do in this case. Greetings. --Dark Dragoon (talk) 20:03, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Well, i just realized that the text of the table don't have the <translate></translate> tag in the original version. Sorry if i did not realize it before, because not long ago i use the Translate extension 😅. --Dark Dragoon (talk) 13:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)fixed due to a technical reason.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 03:22, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Tables are often excluded from translations because usually they are simple lists that anyone can understand regardless of their English skills. However, this might be reconsidered if the community thinks that they should be marked for translation as well.--開拓者 (The Pioneer) (^talk/_contribs | global🌎) 11:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)